88 Celica UK GT4 Trinity. Track car

Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by Alwayzsidewayz, Dec 27, 2006.

  1. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    I'd paint those rear spring cups and go around a few corners to make sure.
    Grippy tyres move around a lot and could rub in a long corner and explode - not a nice experience

    Excellent, keep it up
     
  2. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    cheers, rear race tyres fitted with clearance before camber change, so fingers crossed the 3m spacers and a reduction in camber will be all we need. Currently its 1m :shock: lol but will be checking it lots.
    One prob with the tyres, is its hard to generate the same heat as I do on track on the road, unless I want to go to jail. :D

    Still I have 4 weeks before the next race, so plenty of time to test / check / test / check etc :D
     
  3. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    hmmm. perhaps some subframe connectors like i made are also in order?

    mabye look into the longer st205 rear control arms. that may solve some issues you are having.

    there was a group buy for a 1 peice carbon prop shaft at alltrac.net. i know they still make it and it's super light and seems to work very well. i have not heard of anyone breaking it yet.
     
  4. Mafix

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  5. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    Cheers, may have to wait on the prop. money wise grr

    ST205 rear control arms is a good call :) can get them cheap too.

    Will look at the connectors too. :D

    it never stops with developing these cars :D
     
  6. 88st165

    88st165 Well-Known Member

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    What are you going to gain with 205 control arms exactly? Just clearance for the tires so you can run more camber?
     
  7. Mafix

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    my thoughts exactly
     
  8. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

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    Exactly, I can run only stock camber with a safe distance between tyre and strut. I dont have this issue with road tyres, just the stiff sidealls of the R888s. I want to run at least -1.5 pref -1.8.

    I plan to get the rear arches rolled, so I can eventually squezze in 225 / 45 / 16" tyres, at present the issue is with my current 215 / 50 / 16" ones.

    plus the way I see it, any increase in the rear track will give a tiny but worth while benefit in terms of stabilty.

    205 parts are dirt cheap at present.
     
  9. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    Mafix mate, quick question re brake bias adjusters, what would you favour, bar or dial??

    I am thinking that the dial adjuster is more precise, but I worry about being able to adjust it properly when on track, while I feel the bar would be easier to change while on track.

    any feedback?
     
  10. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

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    i say go dial. mount it near the shifter base that way you can adjust it on the fly.
     
  11. 88st165

    88st165 Well-Known Member

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    What are your mean of camber adjustment? Currently I am using the toyota crash bolts but I found that in the rear I am limited when only using the crash bolt in the top hole. The hub carrier is at the point where it contacts the strut body limiting the camber. Anything smaller than a medium crash bolt will sit inside the hole loosely. Im afraid that I will have to run one in the bottom hole also which I dont like the idea of.
     
  12. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    using a pair of camber adjustment bolts from Whiteline.
    [​IMG]
    Its easy to set them up either none or max, but other adjustment is a long matter of adjustment.
    Max rear camber looks like this.
    [​IMG]
    (on road rims )
     
  13. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    i see room for spacers!
     
  14. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    The pic was before 3mm spacers went on. thinking I could go to 6 - 10mm?

    What do you think will be the effect of a wider rear track?
     
  15. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    10mm. should help with the turn and coming out of the turn but it will make a little more effort-full to get into the turn i would think. all in all 10mm isn't much and it will give you more clearence.
     
  16. 88st165

    88st165 Well-Known Member

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    Im running 15mm spacers in the rear. Rims are 15x7 with a 225 tire. They rub on hard corners (ie autox) even with alittle camber so fender rolling was necessary.
     
  17. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    Cool, think thats the way forward. cheers again :D will source some and post pics.

    On the car spec list going to the mags and used for static shows ( hoping for a feature soon, fingers crossed ) will add you to the credits, tiny way of saying thanks for the tuning help ;)
     
  18. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    **Officially upgraded to Guru status! Congrats!**

    For those who don't know Guru status is a special assigned rank to those who go above and beyond. I am the only one who applies this status and i'm sure you all know how hard it is to impress me!
     
  19. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: My 1988 GT4 ST165 Sprint / fast road car lots of updates

    wow :D :D thank you!!! very very cool!!!
     
  20. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

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    well deserved i think
     

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