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Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by fernandocelica, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    You can buy studs in any length you want, I think longer studs is the safer option as I've seen too many spacers break/crack.
    The a/m spacers have twice as much work to do. They have to hold onto the hub as well as hold the wheel.

    You can machine the spacers down with longer studs without affecting the strength

    Sorry Nando - I'm not a fan of chrome wiele, the design looks too busy to me and black rims look good when you can see the disk/caliper behind (ie Lambo, Ferrari). Guess I'm just old and picky
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  2. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Kev I am cool with it it does look very busy for me too and I would have done it black in anyway and Liontr thank's for the offer on those spacer's I had a good look at it today and spacer's would have to be 15mm or 20mm I reckon I will just skip these wheel's.
    Will find something else with time thanks guy's.Now for another problem is when I start my car for the first time on the day it's got a miss but after I rev it up after one or two rev's and it's fine again but now it's it's becoming to often I was told it's injector getting stuck what would you guy's suggest .
     
  3. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Try injector cleaner, failing that I think you need to check your fuel pressure. My car was doing that just before the fuel pump died
     
  4. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    I need some advice guys I found a complete 3sge Tvis motor from a MR2 for bargain just needed to find out if this will fit on our st162 body shape thanks in advance
     
  5. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Yes it will fit. It's the same exact engine as the one you have in your car though. The alternator is in the wrong place though, you need to use the celica transmission if you don't want to mod the new trans, and you need to use the old powersteering pump. Maybe there's more differences?
     
  6. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    MR2 does not have 3S-GE TVIS, only the 4A-GE 1600cc in the aw11 (sold in RSA) and the SW20 3S-GTE turbo (not sold in RSA) has TVIS.
    http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=472393245

    The MR2 3S-GE does not have TVIS but you could still use it, better if you can get the ecu and harness as it uses MAP and ACIS
    I have one on my bench atm, looks like -
    [​IMG]

    Be careful and post us a pic of the motor, would be nice if it's a GTE - if so try to score the box/flywheel/harness/ecu and shafts as well
    Chuck the alternator bracket/crank pulley and use yours, tranny is easy to convert - I have spare GT4 selectors.

    Later SW20's also came with Beams engines and also the 3rd Gen GTE motor, these would be an even better bet but very scarce
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2012
  7. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    You are correct Kevin I got the motor will take pictures of it tomorrow and have them posted it's a 3S-GE ACIS from a MR2 Second gen 1992 got the complete motor with ECU and wiring for the Price of R2500-00 He still as the side shaft's there are they going to be the same size as mine
     
  8. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Shafts are the same size but thicker than yours
    Flywheel?, the gen2 crank is different so to fit your box you need a dual pcd gen1 flywheel or else use the gen2 flywheel and gearbox

    If not you may have to swap the cranks around which is a good thing as the bearings are most likely toasted
    At least there's plenty spares for these - I started powder coating parts but dearly want to use a gen2 GTE head which is way different to these
    [​IMG]
     
  9. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    He gave me flywheel as well will take picture of the stuff soon hope I don't have to swop that too there is no gearbox that as been sold so the side shafts will be fine to get then and one more thing what sort of power those this motor make they tell me it's around 160hp or 180hp remember this is a jdm import from Zim's and what about the rear shocks that can work too?
     
  10. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    It's about 180hp
    That flywheel won't work - unless you drill and tap your box like this, you'll need a Camry starter too
    [​IMG]

    I doubt the shocks will be the right length, might be good for spares though
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2012
  11. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Here are photo's of the motor

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  12. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Kevin just wondering if you have seen the pictures that flywheel thing I am still confused is this one to big can't I just remove mine and fit it on that or like you said remove crank is there no diff between them inside? and side shaft are the same for sure length and splines don't to pay before I am sure about it.
     
  13. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Good score!
    Clutch is the same
    Splines are the same
    Gen2 flywheel is 10mm bigger, flywheel bolts are bigger, pattern is bigger
    Gen2 crank is identical apart from the bigger bolts and pattern, all later gens use this pattern/bolts as well. The crank seal is bigger on the gearbox side

    Because of the flywheel being bigger you need to mod the bellhousing and use a Camry /MR2 starter
    - or-
    Use your crank/flywheel/starter/box
    -or-
    Mod your flywheel bolt holes to the bigger pattern - easy. Get it lightened and balanced coz the Gen1 is a brick
    -or-
    Buy a a/m light flywheel which is made to fit both cranks, drill bellhousing, fit Camry starter

    Complicated I know, a few years ago nobody could tell me this stuff so you can guess how frustrating it was

    More reading - http://www.st162.net/forum/showthre...ore-jdm-oddities&p=48124&viewfull=1#post48124
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2012
  14. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    gen 2 and gen 1 rear main seals are different aswell. The gen 2 crank F/W face is a slightly larger diametre.

    Some dont like the idea but what you can do is get your gen 1 F/W redrilled to siut the gen 2 crank bolt pattern so you can keep your geabox and starter with no mods
     
  15. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Guy's thank's for the advice I think I will go with the option of redrilled to suit crank and won't have to mod anything else.Get to keep starter and gearbox that's less work and money to spend.I will keep updating as I keep on going I am sure there is going to be more stuff I am going to get stuck with? hope not lol.All this should be starting to happen soon winter is on it's way and got to work outside the garage thank's again
     
  16. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    I have a set of gen7 rims spare - Same as on my car (16in)
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    So what happened to PINKY?- Pinky was his old pink Celica, it was so ugly we named it Pinky
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2012
  17. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Ok Pinky I understand now. Those Rims I also like alot but 16inch is my scare when it come's to tyre's they are a shit load of money
    here.Reason I am looking for 17inch is I already have a set of tyre's but never the less how much would it cost me in total to get them here.
     
  18. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    I have removed the motor today what a shit job struggled with the wires and gearbox removed the whole thing as one,Two thing
    that are diff... from the mr2 3sge to the 3sge celica that I have found so far are the flywheel is bigger and the starter won't fit from behind due to this oil cooler pipes sorry for not having pictures yet will post them tomorrow.
     
  19. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    Just ditch the oil cooler. Its essentially useless. If you want an oil cooler your better off going an external ATA cooler using a sandwich plate or filter relocation kit. As for the Flywheel. As i said just use your gen 1 FW and get the holes redrilled to match. make sure you get it balanced

    By removing the factory oil cooler, it leaves a flush surface to mount the oil filter same as on the gen 1
     
  20. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    I just removed my fly wheel from old motor and fit's 100% over the MR2 one only different thing is the bolt'sare smaller in size and MR2 are bigger all I have to do is change the bolts to bigger size lucky me will show you on picture's as soon as possible for oil cooler also was thinking of removing it completely but amnot sure if it will make a difference to the motor.
     

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