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Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by fernandocelica, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Yes it's JDM, or at least made in JPN for export to Africa. Where the stickers under the column, bonnet etc in Japanese?
    The "GT engine" doesn't officially exist but we know about it.
    The official JDM GT is supposed to have been fitted with a lighter bonnet & doors and intended for production racing and magazine articles. (so the rumour in NZ goes)?
    The engines are popping up worldwide though

    The O2 wire messes with your ESC light - weird?
     
  2. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Guy's look's like I have found the problem with that ESC and maybe the cause the flat battery all the time.
    On my air-con pump the wire must of had a short and all burned black so unpluged it now it seem's to be fine light is off must had been causing interference with ESC one more thing for those that don't know ESC is factory fitted and can not be fitted by any aftermarket mechanic or who ever for those that have it make sure you have censor's by wheel's too that's what I found out.I will
    be checking to if have those on my car.I remember seeing a control box somewhere in the center of car.
     
  3. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Kevin those GT motor's do they have less power than the one you got?.
    For the bonnet there was no sticker it was sprayed before but I have noticed that it
    was not heavy thou.
    Jap letter's still have not come across any or maybe never paid attention to it.
    Hey man this car must be one of Kind lol.
     
  4. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Here are the pictures of tappet cover and cam no: Picture 001.jpg Picture 002.jpg Picture 003.jpg
     
  5. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    At least they got it right, turbo head and GE cams, -so we are twins in many more ways:cool:.

    I saw somewhere that they were also sold in Saudi etc, so there may be some running around the desert
    My cars all had squiggle stickers everywhere
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    I think this one sez "Don't put water here you bluddy fool"
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    How's this for JDM?
    http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NTIyWDY4NA==/$(KGrHqV,!hsE8UoO17jIBPKF5n1n7Q~~60_12.JPG

    JDM enough? - bling
    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=140693460644

    GT motor had more compression - I have a set of the pistons spare - ours are flat
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    Last edited: Feb 2, 2012
  6. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    If there is any left in Saudi they would all be sand-blasted by now lol.
    Thanks Kevin for the information.
    What I got in mind is to do an engine overhaul so part's for it I will be needing but let me start first just to make sure I get the right
    stuff and by the way my car as got censor's by the brake-caliper's so I do have ESC for sure but searched net for info with no luck
    for this model only the 2000 model celica's up had it.
     
  7. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    All cars with ABS have the ESC light and wheel sensors - look at Sean's car etc
    Mine doesn't have the wheel sensors or the special hubs as it didn't come with ABS

    The ABS should be the same on all the cars - check the BGB diagrams and fault list -
    http://www.st162.net/forum/manual/

    That was the link but it's screwed now, we need to make the BGB's more accessable
     
  8. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    yup, no way it will get installed by aftermarket mechanics, it's factory.
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    that's your esc/abs

    the ONLY known TEMS with ABS in the world! LOL
     
  9. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    I have ABS and where the above ^^^^ ABS actuator is I have the cruise control speed control actuator............ say that 5 times as fast as you can :lol

    Those sensors thru the hub are ABS wheel speed sensors.


    So where the fook would my ABS Actuator be ? Is my haynes repair manual telling me porkies at the minute :scratch
     
  10. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re the flywheel
    I don't think there's much you can remove from the stock GE flywheel - unless you drill big holes in it, but it WILL need balancing.
    The GT4 flywheel is a little lighter but the later 5S flywheel is a lot lighter and a better casting but it still weighs 5kg+
    Here's the stocker vs the 5S, you may find one on a RAV4? Our clutch fits, so you can use a Camry/RAV clutch too
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    It will mean drilling your bellhousing and using a RAV/Camry starter, better in the long run as you have a snowballs chance of replacing the GE starter - even here they are f/n scarce!

    See if you can order Hastings rings from there and ACL bearings. I still think Superboss rods/pistons might be the answer

    I may be able to get another set of oversize pistons cheap ($200), not sure if they still have stock or have rings seperate. I found out these are discontinued stock but the quality is excellent and they are lighter than stock and perfectly weighted.
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    To be honest I think NZ is a rip-off, I paid $230 for a new set of big ends this year (with import charges), you can save 5X that by buying online in the US, I can help if paypal is a problem?

    This is worth serious investigation, I can't find anything close to this - http://www.eportuning.com/Engine-Ga...-20-DOHC-3SGELC-Full-Gasket-Set-p5459696.html

    I will definitely use these guys in future
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2012
  11. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Thank's Kevin for coming back with all that info it will give me an idea what to do I will keep in touch.I got to find out from opel what those superboss piston's and rod's go for.For the Gasket set I think it's a good price.For the flywheel I will just leave it like that, just one question would a rav 4 or camry clutch fit on the same flywheel we have now if that is what I understand.
     
  12. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Probably under the rear seat same as my All Trac, under the black metal cover is the actuator and to the left under
    the piece of wood is the ABS computer
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  13. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Yep, looks like they are the same, ST165-2765 has the 5S flywheel fitted and did the bellhousing/starter mod with a GE clutch.

    I'm using a GT4 flywheel and pressure plate (Exedy HD) with a GE clutch, it works well but the pedal is way heavier than the GE setup.
    Next I will fit the 5S flywheel (after lightening it) with a stock GE clutch.
    Here's a $500 a/m flywheel, looks like the 5S casting with a lotta holes in it
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    Last edited: Feb 11, 2012
  14. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Guy's I just got myself some wheels for free which would like to share with you's and at same time they don't fit on the rear I remember Mar'c saying that we need to fit a spacer for them not touch rear shock but if i do that the stud will be to short here are
    some picture's of the offset and how they look like they still need some work on them and maybe will also make them black as well. Toyotacelicaprogress130.jpg
    Toyota celica progress 131.jpg Toyota celica progress 129.jpg
     
  15. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

    You need spacers with studs in them. So you mount the spacers as they were rims, and then mount the rims to the spacers the same way.
    Like these:

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    Last edited: Feb 22, 2012
  16. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Ok thanks but those spacer's you speaking about are very expensive those are the one's you can even convert from five hole to four hole as well but is there not another option? Because the front is fine only for the rear.
     
  17. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

    Of course, it depends on what were they made for. These are my previous ones, I used them on the rear, so me too had only two.
    (Btw, I couldn't get them sold for over a year now, so if 35mm / side is not too big for someone, he can have it for shipping price only)
     
  18. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    I had the same problem when I tried to fit some 17" Subaru rims
    Those spacers are around $130 new and available from 15mm up, you need to measure what size you need without the tire hitting the fender.

    Another route is to fit longer studs and have them going all the way thru the machined spacer, safer I think

    Yet another route is to convert the shocks to coilovers, more difficult for us than the rest but it can be done as our rears also have locking rings and not welded shut like the rest
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2012
  19. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Liontr just maybe I will take those two from you but need to find out on the back side of it could I maybe have them machined to take off 5mm or are the hole's drilled to deep and still need to make some more measurements and how much for shipping thank-you for your offer as well.Was 35mm sticking out to much like Kevin said touching fender arch?
    Kevin I was thinking of the same thing longer stud's but let me see what it's going to cost between the two.But what you guy's think nice,ugly suit's car or what sell them.
     
  20. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

    Stig: Yeah, longer studs are better for smaller spacers. For 35mm? I don't think so! It's almost twice the length as the stock stud. I consider that less safe. Also, it's very hard to find someone who make you them from proper material, well at least here it is.

    Fernando: As Stig said, you have to measure first, what size will you need. I tought about machining down these back then, but if I take off 5mm from the inner side, there won't be enough material to hold the nuts safely, and if I take off 5mm from the outer side, there won't be enough material to hold the studs safely.
    Shipping is about 60 USD.
     

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