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Discussion in 'Drivetrain' started by kevinkyang, Feb 20, 2009.
i don't have any emissions. historic tags FTW.
ok, so i'm going to look at a transmission from the guy that the blue interior from in a couple of days. he says that the tranny i still good and i need to know how to remove it so i can take it. only $75 and he said if it is defective i can return it. so any help would be great! thanks a whole lot guys.
that's a hell of a job.
Bill (irish) has a pulled 3sfe tranny in his garage. I saw it today, but not sure of the condition though.
would he keep it if its crap?? ugh
soo...how would i remove the transmission?
Re: S53, I think there are a few ratio combinations, mine is the shortest with 0.9 5th and 4.1 diff
dang, i dont have to do that do it??? :shock: :shock: :shock:
Well I hear it can be done in the car but I don't believe that - yet
There isn't room for the crank pulley, oil & water pumps if you lower the box only
Besides - the 3 main mounts are all on the gearbox!
i know for a fact it can be changed while in the car... i often did it... 3 times on my celica actually (2 gearboxes and a clutch hehe ) but yers it can be done and will take you maybe 3-4 hours can do it quicker if you have had experiance!! coolgleamA
I've done that on Golf's, Alfa's, BMW's but there's enough room to tilt it
In those cases it was a 2 man job with many jacks, stands, braces & experienced mechs
I pulled 2 GE motors and replaced 1 by myself in one night using a hire hoist,
I don't think it would be wise to attempt sliding the box out/in by yourself, the chances of getting it
back in without a fancy box lifter are almost zero
Safety should always be the 1st priority
well, i think that pictures would not be so useful in this case since you all know how the transmission sits in these cars. we will be installing it in Toyota and im sure that they have all the right tools. my brother works there and he said to bring it in after they close. the mechanics there said it was ok too. just dont know how much they would want since it is under the table work for them anyways. but, i will take pictures anyways.
No Kev, I mean pics of swapping without removing the motor
oh yea, i sure will. thats if i am there when the swap is happening.....my brother usually takes my car to work then does whatever it is that needs doing after they close.
Swaping the tranny wilst the engine is still in the car is the easier way to do it - support the motor from the top, leave the passenger side(right) engine mount in place, disconnect the other three tranny mounts, remove the cross member, disconnect everything associated with tranny removal, lower the motor till the harmonic dampner is 1/2" away from hitting the frame rail, seperate the tranny from the motor and slide it out. The C52/S53 trannies are not as heavy as you think, I can pick one up with one arm.
If you swap the 3SFE tranny in favour for the C52 - 4th gen Celica GTS/3SGE tranny you will also need the drivers side(left) tranny mount and mount bracket.
If you swap the 3SFE tranny in favour for the S53 - 5th gen Celica GT/GTS/5SFE tranny you use your 3SFE left side tranny mount and mounting bracket. The same applies if you swap in favour for the S54 - 6th gen Celica GT/GTS/5SFE tranny.
For all the above the following applies - use 4th or 5th gen Celica 3SGE/5SFE C52/S53 axles.
Gen4 Celica GT w/ 3SFE and gen6 Celica GT/GTS w/ 5SFE S54 axles will NOT work with the above listed transmissions.
Making sure you use the correct upper tranny mount and mounting bracket as well as the correct axles are imperative to making the tranny swap a trouble free en devour.
wow thanks. i was just going to put in another stock transmission back into mine. thanks for the advise though. i wouldnt have known about the axle change. now that brings into question will the axles just bolt right up or would i have to do some fabricating? would the piece that holds the axles on the passenger side in the middle be in the same spot?
The axles bolt right up including the hanger bearing. Reason I specified the the 6th gen axles not being compatible in the 4th gen is because they are longer due to the 6th gen having a wider track.
wouldnt that be a tighter fit though? fitting the stocks in are a bit tight already. hmm....the only way to find out is to do it!
the tighter...... the better! :wink: