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Rough Idle

Discussion in 'Diagnosis/Help' started by zebani, Dec 2, 2011.

  1. zebani

    zebani Guest

    Hi guys. My 86 GT-S started to have rough idling problem. It only does that if I drive it for a while ,15 - 20 min. or more, then turn the engine off for another 10 - 15 minutes. When I try to turn it on it either turns on and feels like it idles around 500 RPM off or it just shut itself off. However if the wait time is shorter ,around 5 min, or more ,20 - 25 min., it starts up without any problem. I took it to mechanic shop and they said alternator might be the problem however they are not sure either. Do you guys have any ideas ?
     
  2. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Done anything to it lately?
    This is why I keep a spare AFM, T/B, coil & distributor - could be any of these.
    Could also be plugs or a bad injector and I once had the same problem with a coil
    that was old and overheating - took a while to find that one

    If you have any parts or have a friend's car handy, try swapping bits to isolate the problem.

    The shutting off could be the coil, plug gaps too small or the AFM not set correctly (loose flap spring?).
    that's my hunch & where I'd start looking as well as the rotor and cap condition.

    Can't see an alternator causing idling and shutdown issues :bs
     
  3. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    does it idle bad and then work normally again after a few mins?
     
  4. zebani

    zebani Guest

    Not really. I purchased the car in September or October and the previous owner changed the timing belt the day that I bought it. As far as I know that was the most updated change on the car. The car sat more than a year before I bought it. I don`t really have any friends with who have Celicas in fact I don`t even have friends here yet :eek:ops We just moved to San Diego like a few months ago :) and so far the only people that I know are the people that I work with :)

    Plugs etc. all changed before I bought it but I don`t know if the car sat more than a year after they changed them or they changed them before I bought it. I should have asked that question.
     
  5. zebani

    zebani Guest

    Yes it idles pretty bad first then works just fine.
     
  6. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    clean your throttle body...
     
  7. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    I agree, that's :bs

    Did he do the timing belt,......... contact him and have a chinwag and go from there.
     
  8. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    celica's can still run without a battery but its very bad for the alternator.... so i cant see it being that.

    seafoam the SHIT out of that bad boy
     
  9. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Remove air cleaner maybe dirty or maybe try it with out clean it properly like Sean say's
     
  10. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    Did he/whoever accidently disturb/loosen something while doing the timing belt.
     
  11. Rick89GTS

    Rick89GTS Well-Known Member Moderator Donated!

    I agree with the boys: it's not the alternator.
    If it's rough on re-start, I'd start with the basics, like checking all the big and small air tubes from the AFM to the throttle body (TB). An air leak will cause rough idle. Again, like some of the guys mentioned, clean out the TB.

    Funny, I have the same problem on my 86GTS and I'm wondering if it's a cold start injector issue. It depends on how long it sits after shut off. That's why I think it has something to do with temp sensors on the cold start injector.
     
  12. zebani

    zebani Guest

    First I will need to figure out how to do that :sad

    Same as above... Don`t know how to do it but I am trying to find more sources. Also searching the forum :thumbsup:
     
  13. zebani

    zebani Guest

    Lets see who is going to figure it out first. If its me I will definitely update you. If you figure it out first please let me know :)
     
  14. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    i have a spare cold start, ill skow ya how to clean a TB later
     
  15. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    I'm interested in learning thanx Sean, :popcorn....... I'm sure that after 20 years mine could use a good clean.
     
  16. zebani

    zebani Guest

  17. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    Interesting vid Zeb........ I never heard of this............ it may be handy for less baked on carbon............. I'm curious to hear what the lads think :munch
     
  18. jwagner162

    jwagner162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    be carefull with the seafoam. you can hydrolock the engine. i almost did it to my land cruiser! pour very very slowly!

    -i might do it to my celica if the engine wasnt new, but would never do it to the cruiser again. im not sure i want to find out how much a replacement 2uz-fe is.
     
  19. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    I'v done plenty of googling on seafoam and it seems that if used properly it might be fine...................... Hydrolock = bent conrods :eek:hnoes
     
  20. 187flatliner

    187flatliner Seat Breaker Donated!

    change your fuel filter first......then clean your throttlebody....its pretty simple to clean and i did mine in about a minute.
     

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