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Did my project have future??

Discussion in 'Forced Induction' started by gtiac, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. gtiac

    gtiac Guest

    Hi folks, I have an st162 3sge, and my idea is pass to put turbo, I have already some parts to do that, but I wanted to know what you think about that:

    - St162 3sge with harness and all sensor that it contain
    - St 165 pistons ( Or St185 that I think its works too in st165 engine)
    - Supra CT26 turbo
    - Megasquirt, With 3sge or 3sgte map's I don't know yet
    - 440cc Injectors
    - Fuel pomp of supra MKIII turbo
    - And compression of 3sgte

    Do you think it will work?'

    Thanks
     
  2. Ant1

    Ant1 Well-Known Member

    I think it would be easier to just get a 3S-GTE.
     
  3. mephtar

    mephtar Well-Known Member

    much much easier
     
  4. gtiac

    gtiac Guest

    Yes, I'm sure of that, but I live in Portugal and yere is not easy to find 3sgte, I can buying one in England or USA but is too much port to pay...
    See I have already much of that stuf, it's better and easyer ( € ) do the transformation like I say before...
     
  5. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Hmm well just giving you a heads up, that a turbo 3sge has only be *attempted* a couple times, I know for sure one of them blew up...the other 2 I know of the guy just isn't around anymore...and the other guy is still on these boards somewhere he just joined with his turbo 3sge...he's not running much boost but it works.... Apparently you'll need a 3sgte ECU to make all of the fuel / air corrections I believe....
     
  6. gtiac

    gtiac Guest

    Yes but the 3sgte ECU meens 3sgte harness, and I don't know if the 3sgte harness fit on the 3sge block and head, so that why I going to use a standalone like the Megasquirt, because I can fit the 3sge map's ignition, and the EFI map into, and make the correcction of fuel/air...
     
  7. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Ok as long as you've got your bases covered :D
     
  8. Ant1

    Ant1 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, youed be better off with a tuned aftermarket ecu.
     
  9. brydenm

    brydenm Guest

    im pretty much doing the same thing as you right now
     
  10. Klue

    Klue Well-Known Member Donated!

    As far as strength goes the 3sgte is much more robust.

    but anyway
    just some info,
    -the st165 pistons are lower compression so id go with these IF your using a supra ct26, as this turbo flows quite a bit and should put out great power.
    - Get some connecting rods FOR sure. there is a reason why the 3sgte has 800hp capable rods.
    -3sgte MAP at least on the st185 is good for up to 18 psi (i think)
    -your fuel pump may be over kill, 3sgte pump is more than enough for the 440's
    - metal headgasket for sure(cometic)
    - what about intercooling?
     
  11. brydenm

    brydenm Guest

    what happens if you dont intercool
     
  12. gtiac

    gtiac Guest

    Yes for intercooling I'll use an FMIC, that a point that I forgot but just in this list, not in the project...


    My only problem are the MAF 3sge, I don't know if it's diferent that an 3SGTE MAF, and if that will be a problem to me..
     
  13. Youds

    Youds Well-Known Member

    foda-se....
     
  14. gtiac

    gtiac Guest

    Rssss My Inglish is not perfect, but your portuguese are...lol :wink:
     
  15. brydenm

    brydenm Guest

    lol im going to use a 3sge MAF and see what happens too
     
  16. Klue

    Klue Well-Known Member Donated!

    Since your asking US to critique your game plan, I dont think this is a safe statement.


    anyway, 3sgte AFM not MAF. is differnt. since your using a megasquirt it doesnt matter anyway, you might aswell convert to speed density and simplify your tuning.
     
  17. toyotatuner

    toyotatuner Guest

    if i were you i would get the 3sgte ecu. That way you have a base map to work with. As far as needing a 3sgte harness...its not necessary. For me I am using a 5sfe harness and just ran my own wires where needed. But if i could do it over i would have sent my harness somewhere to have them do the work for me. for example http://www.phoenixtuning.com/services.html

    The most important thing is to buy a EWD. For the motor and for whatever harness you are goin to use.

    I have to say megasquirt is for serious tuners. You have to know a lot about tuning and creating your own fuel/ignition maps. I don't know ur knowledge level but i am just letting you know.
     
  18. gtiac

    gtiac Guest

    What a EWD??

    Yes I know that megasquirt is more dificulte to map, but is the cheaper standalone too, I know some people who used megasquirt for his car, and they can help mi, like a friend who make file for all cars...

    An other question is, can exist any place on web where I can find the ignition map of an 3sge??

    Thanks
     
  19. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    st165-2765 might have it in one of his manuals....wait until he reads this thread or pm me....
     
  20. toyotatuner

    toyotatuner Guest

    EWD=eletrical wiring diagram.

    As long as you have someone to help you set up the maps and building of the unit itself then you are good to go. Price is one of the main reasons why people go with megasquirt and letting the tuner have complete control over all the inputs. once you figure out those maps...it would be very useful for the community if you posted up your settings. Just so someone doing a similar job can have soemthing to work with.

    It is a great standalone and i wish you luck.
     

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