Anyone own ceika coilovers?!

they make a set just for use 4th gens but their expensive, tim did a conversion with 5th gen coilovers.....works great but you need to mod the rears just a bit to get the bolt to fit....he can explain in further detail

 

kevind has them on his car: http://www.st162.net/forum/showthread.php?3419-kevin-s-1988-celica-sx&p=65460&viewfull=1#post65460

 

I like mine.

 

I dunno. I haven't driven her in a month, I've forgot. They're adjustable though. They were too rough at first so I softened them up and they felt great.

 

I'm running Megan coilovers for a st184.

 

tim, he asked whats the spring rate.....as im also wondering myself

 

And that was my answer. I'm running Megan coilovers from a ST184.

It could be interpreted as 'I know the spring rate just like the Prez is going to grant the states succession from the Country'. Another good one is 'I don't have a damn clue'.

 

I ordered the Type 1 coilover kit from them. They should be coming in by the end of this week. Camber plates with Pillowball all around. Spring rate for both front and rear is 6 kg/mm. Here on this forum, MXP_57 is Cedric who works at Ceika. He had his own car thread on here but when the server change happened most of his thread was lost. He's still registered on here and I asked him about spring rate and what was good for the car. He suggested 6 kg/mm so that's what I went with.

 

Good read Willie but hey mate, how's about some spaces/gaps between comments/points and go easy easy on those 'old' knuckles :mrgreen


I had no idea on Pillowball but alas............ http://www.preludeonline.com/f28/what-pillow-ball-upper-mount-24348/

 

Hey everyone, i'm Cedric. I'm the director of CEIKA Limited.

I haven't been much on here lately as i've been very busy and haven't had much time to finish the st165. But i will post some updates soon. It's going to be crazy... i'm doing the las stage of lightening and roll cage building. It should be the lightest st165 out there. I will be able to get to 1000kg if not less I put 700hp in my signature as it's what i'm building it for, but considering the weight i will probably settle for less. The car will be used as a demo car for CEIKA.

Our coilovers are direct bolt in front and rear for any st165 and st162 1st and 2nd series (rear suspensions are different between 1st and 2nd series).

It might be a little bit more expensive than cheap brands, but the quality is much higher. If i had distributors etc. like usual brands, the price would be much higher. Plus you get a fully custom built set to suit your needs. Shocks are valved and built to order, you can even choose the amount of travel and shock length if you like. So it's hard for anyone to say "how do they feel" as they all feel differently, especially since we have a few types of shocks that will feel totally differently with digressive or progressive valving etc. Nobody wants their ride to feel the same.

We are also going to introduce some new models as well as a large 55mm inverted monotube strut 3 way adjustable for gravel rally. And also some optional racing oil to replace the standard performance oil.

Also about the spring rates, i don't know what is up with other brands but the st165 has slightly stiffer rear springs. Same with the st185, but everybody seems to think that 8/4kg is good. The celica is already a car that understeers so it will just make it understeer even more.

Same springs front and rear is what you want. It will give the car a very good neutral feel. With less understeer and more "turn in".

"Coilovers or tyres first" can be argued. Of course tyres and wheels are important. But the main reason why the tyres become a limit at the start is because of the stock suspension. It feels like a boat on those cars and this extra body roll while cornering will quickly overload on 1 or 2 tyres and cause grip loss. Same when braking, and accelerating (with the fwd st16). Not only the weight transfer will be huge due to the body roll, but also with the stock progressive springs, the rise in pressure will be very sudden once you hit the stiffer spring part at the moment where the car is fully leaning on one side. It's a bit like if you apply brakes while cornering lol.

With the linear rate coilovers springs, you don't have this sharp rise in pressure while cornering.

Switching to coilovers transforms the car all around. Cornering (better weight balance on all 4 tyres and lower center of gravity), braking, and a bit better traction when accelerating (unless you have too soft rear springs). Without even considering that the car will feel amazing and such a pleasure to drive and the steering becomes so much sharper too.

By the way If it's a turbo celica, first thing on the list should be a wideband o2 even on stock boost. (i've learned from my mistakes a few years back lol)

I have to check and update my old build thread!

 

^^^ great post, thanks for the info. Look forward to an update on your car

 

Thanks guys.

Of course replacing all worn bushes is a must. Not only for stiffness but also once there is some play it will spread more quickly to other bushes etc...

Mafix> what do you mean by 6kg is quite low? For track use? The stock springs are 2 to 2.6kg/mm. Of course if you put 6kg springs on a coilover kit made for 10 or 8kg, it will not have enough travel and you will be ridding on the bump stop. But for street use with proper travel length and valving it provides a really good ride all round even for some track use.

On my st165, i have 8kg front and 8kg rear, the car is light and the ride is firm. I still have to see how it goes on the track. But for street i wouldn't go higher than 8kg i think.

The thing with tyres is that good tyres cost as much as coilovers for a full set pretty much. And the better the tyre the quicker it will wear out. Coilovers is more of a long term investment. A set of semi slicks is very nice investment, but it will be gone quickly :-D

I'm going to fit some 265/35/18 or 275 tyres on mine lol What is your tyre size Mafix? you have some flares too right?