5 speed transmissions

somehow use the exhaust side starter on a transmission that uses the starter on the transmission side with a different sized gear?

 

stig's pics: http://www.st162.net/forum/showthread.php?3376&p=48124&viewfull=1#post48124

s54 trans/starter with 1st gen ge flywheel:


2nd+ gen 3s-ge/3sfe/5sfe/3sgte bottom, 1st gen 3s-ge top:

 

Mar'c thanks on the information I never knew that the s53 would just spin with high Hp,for the starter still don't see how would my same starter work,the hole thing I under stand all that and mounting it but what is a puzzle for me once stater mounted will the bendix reach the ring gear to spin it round it look's so far away.I will be looking for a E15x gearbox in anyway's will it also be a perfect fit or is there mod's to be made.

 

i'm not too sure on the e boxes, i believe mafix, stig, redrocket are the names i can think of that can provide you with more info.

 

i'm referring to stigs pictures because i've found the same thing. when i took off my 3s-ge s53, the 8-bolt 1st gen 3s-ge flywheel is SMALLER than the 8-bolt st202 5S-FE/3S-FE/GTE. no one is talking about a 6-bolt version of anything. My proof:

how many teeth do you think are in there? bad picture but it's the best i've got from my swap. 9 teeth is what i say.
go find any place with starter motors and look for a gt-s one. you'll find 9 tooth starters.
here's a few: BECK/ARNLEY Part # 1870380 / VALEO Part # 455599


Here is my 3S-FE starter kickin around at home:

now before you say...maybe that's for the 6-bolt, no, i've used this for my 5s-fe flywheel just fine. starts great. we've got 13 teeth.

this is consistent with any store selling 3s-f/3s-g starters that you find. 9 teeth for 3S-G/13 teeth for 3S-F starters

furthermore:


notice how much more gunk there is visible behind the 3s-ge flywheel? because it's smaller.

http://www.st162.net/archive/index.php/t-1294.html
noobified bought a 3s-gte flywheel, that's why it worked.

http://www.toymods.org.au/forums/te...fe-3sge-conversion-starter-motor-problem.html

 

all in good spirit. sooner or later there's going to be no one fixing our old cars so we gotta stay on top of our game while we can!

 

I don't think that's LSD, an LSD typically has 4 pinion gears, ie 2 of those shafts.
The Beams flywheel fits the S54 and starter - however it will not fit your gen1 crank, for that you need an FE flywheel which looks identical to that flywheel you have

 

This was the same issue I ran into when converting my GTS, the JDM tranny in my car came drilled for both exhaust side and tranny side starter mounting. The problem was same as you've discovered, the GE flywheel has 115 tooth ring gear while the FE flywheel has 120 teeth. My solution was to get a flywheel from a '90 Camery and now it all goes togather and works perfectly. You can get the flywheel from Rock Auto for like $45 made by Sachs and then order a Exedy clutch kit for the GTS also from Rock Auto for around $200.

racerb :science

 

What I mean is that the Gen2- GE/GTE cranks/flywheel and flywheel bolts are different
Don't believe me? ask Fernandocelica

This is the Gen1 GTE flywheel I used to solve the problem


The holes are hard to spot but the bolts are way different on the later cranks & flywheels

 

5s-fe flywheels work as well for the 1st gen 3sge crank

 

I will have a quite clear answer about the LSD phenomenon, as sadly mine has some problems and is getting replaced these days.
Once I get the car back, and the diff in my hands, I'll make some pics.