what gearbox is this?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by rev_head, Apr 25, 2011.

  1. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    i am looking at buying this reconditioned gearbox but the bellhousing has me stumped.

    To me it looks like its an s53 g/box with a different bellhousing, possibly from a 4a? anyone kno if they are interchangeable?

    What i need to kno is what the actual box is. if its a simple case of a direct swap of the bellhousings then thats easy.

    thanks guys

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  2. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Short answer - NO
    Will be cheaper, easier, & quicker to source one from a ST182, ST202
    Can you crack open the end cover and show us a pic, better still count the teeth on those 2 exposed gears.

    Long answer - Looks like an "S" box, possibly 7A-FE?
    You can't just swap bellhousings, there are a multitude of spacers and adjustments to be done.
    If it was dirt cheap, Id strip it for spares but you'll need to open your box anyways, so it may
    be cheaper to buy new selectors and syncros for your box.

    I find the big problem for us is the needle roller bearings wearing out, once that happens the gears
    "flop" around and the syncros get chewed up.

    If you stripped both boxes and used only the best parts, ie swapping bearings, syncros, selectors etc it may be possible to build one decent box
    but everything will need to be sized and built according to ther BGB.

    Unfotunately Toyota used different sized syncros and rings on different gears so unlike other
    boxes you can't use 5th gear stuff on 2nd gear etc
    The 1st/2nd gear selector ring includes the reverse engagement gear

    It is possible to re-build a box at home but you'd need:
    A BGB
    Various pullers
    Micrometer
    Feeler gauges
    A press
    Dial gauges

    Boxes are tricky, the slightest error could cause the box to lock up and write off the car.
    Don't attempt it without expert help and advice.
    Don't attempt to re-use worn parts

    Further reading - http://st162.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=6934&p=90228#p90228
     
  3. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    cheers, yer i may just steer clear of it and get my box rebuilt
     
  4. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    If its cheap buy it for spares
     
  5. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    looks like a ge box to me?
     
  6. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    it looks like a rebuilt st162 box... cant be 182,202 becasue of the starter position, ive seen one of these before.
     
  7. kevind

    kevind Well-Known Member Donated!

    it is a ge gearbox check this:
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  8. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    wow nice find kev!
     
  9. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    You learn something new everyday
    Check to see if your starter and flywheel will fit
     
  10. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    rev is using a GE isn't he? or did he swap?
     
  11. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    yer ge box and flywheel
     
  12. kevinkyang

    kevinkyang Well-Known Member Donated!

    wonder womans invisible car :cool :bowdown
     

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