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Tie Rod Ends

Discussion in 'Suspension / Steering' started by rye, May 6, 2007.

  1. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Can they be changed or what?? How easy...anyone got a how-to? haha
     
  2. JoeJack88

    JoeJack88 Well-Known Member Super Moderator Donated!

    there pretty simple....the inner or outer?
     
  3. racerb

    racerb Well-Known Member

    Yea they can be replaced, and it's pretty easy, if you've ever set your toe, then your half way there. The first thing I suggest is marking the location of the capture nut to the tierod before loosening anything. Basicly you have to remove the tierod end from the hub, some have cotter pins, some just nylon lock nuts, but either way they need to be taken loose first. Usually a couple raps with a hammer at the point where the rod end attaches to the hub will break it free, but a pickle fork may be needed if really stubborn. Once removed from the hub end, you simply loosen the capture nut and just rotate the joint by hand and oh my god it's right there in your hand, waiting to be thrown away, or returned for core charge whichever way you go.

    If you like,I've got to replace mine pretty soon, so I take pics and include a little write up.

    racerb :)
     
  4. 86gtscaged

    86gtscaged Guest

    Since you may go through them faster than the rest of us, what do you notice when they are going bad ?
     
  5. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Well..mines bent upward....on the driver's side....it's visibly noticable, and my steering wheel has to be turned 30 degrees clockwise to drive straight, and when the car's parked and you look at the wheels it looks like they're both sticking outward in opposite directions...haha
     
  6. racerb

    racerb Well-Known Member

    A good sign, is a ruptured dust boot and zero grease and/or very little grease left. Another sign is when every other part of your steering is working great, there is still extra effort needed to steer the car, along with some clunking and/or gridding in the steering. Actually I have had really good success with tierod ends, if replaced at the beginning of your build, they usually last forever. CV joints are were constant attention is needed, mostly cause of the extra heat and stress of racing.

    racerb :eek:
     
  7. racerb

    racerb Well-Known Member

    Hey rye, your going to need more than just a tierod end, your going to need the entire tierod assembly. And yes they can be replaced, you just gotta take the clamp off the inner tierod dust cover and push it back to expose it's attachment point to the rack. After assessing the damages, your local parts house can usually get whatever you need, I know our local Advance Auto Parts lists all the pieces.

    racerb 8)
     
  8. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Well today when I was servicing a toyota dealership I talked to the parts manager, he was able to get me the outer tie rod end for $20....@ cost! w00t...

    anywho...I'm picking up the part tommorow then hopefully drop my car off at my buddies garage so he can take a look and see what else it needs....
     
  9. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Hmm...the longest part of the assembly is the bent piece..I can't just replace that eh?? I bought the outer tie rod but I guess I'll need more than that..... :( boo
     
  10. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    you'll also need an Inner tie rod end. and the tool to remove it.
     
  11. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    apparently I need the rod....that's the part that's bent...
     
  12. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    what you bought was the outer tie rod end, what you are talking about if the inner tie rod end. 2 peices.
     
  13. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    either way if one was messed bad the other probably is too...
     
  14. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    it would be best to replace both and the boot.
     
  15. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    yeah I'll just do the whole assembly as racerb suggested
     
  16. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    anyone have the diagram for the tie rod assemble in their bgb or other type of manual?
     
  17. Youds

    Youds Well-Known Member

    hmmm like this?

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  18. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    looking at that diagram......the rack is bent....
     
  19. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    it's the part called a rack end. it's damn near impossible to bend a rack.
     
  20. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    Is the rack end the part that's exposed? and the rack is covered behind the boot?
     

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