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st165 twin pot brakes fit st162 without mods?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kevind, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. kevind

    kevind Well-Known Member Donated!

    as title suggests and do they have the same pads?
    thanks kev
     
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  2. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    brakes are a bolt up. can use existing discs or the 165 ones that are thicker.
    as for pads i think they are different but not 100%
     
  3. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    If you check my thread you'll see I use 165 brakes on my 162.
    No mods needed, pads are different
     
  4. kevind

    kevind Well-Known Member Donated!

    thanks guys.
     
  5. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Comparing the ST162/165/182/202 front brakes

    Disk comparison - unless you do track days I don't think you'll notice the difference in brake fade
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    Pads - ST202 has the bigger, longer lasting pad
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    Stock - with ST182 pads fitted
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    ST202 (same as early ST185??)
    You need the whole hub or skim the caliper mounts down 4mm
    Pedal was spongy - recommend fitting ST185/202 brake master cylinder
    Brakes were equal to the ST165 setup
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    ST165
    With the ST185 master cyl fitted one needs to be carefull in the wet or while panic braking.
    On the track they feel good but lack stopping power compared to the ST205 brakes
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    ST205
    Needs warming up in the mornings, but the ones to have
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    Supra - another possible candidate?
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    Altezza - possible?
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    M/C - Camry V6 (bottle doesn't fit RHD ST16x), Celica ST185, stock compared
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    Last edited: Jan 29, 2012
  6. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    i saw drilled rotors on a new 162 in a yard close to me, would you trust yard rotors? forgot to check what calipers were on it
     
  7. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Well, that depends
    If they look chewed up - no
    If the car was in a smash and they look smooth - yes

    Even if they don't look to good but are drilled/slotted there' always a chance they can be skimmed
     
  8. kevind

    kevind Well-Known Member Donated!

    thanks stig, so is it best to use the st165 rotors or are the st162 rotors fine?
     
  9. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Use the 165's if you can, if you can't I see no reason the 162's won't work.
    The 165's are thicker and have better cooling, so on the street it won't make a difference.
    Remember the 165 is a lardass compared to the 162, what it makes in power it loses and more in power/weight ratio.
     
  10. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    use st202 rotors... way better cooling
     
  11. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

  12. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

  13. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    Good point, I missed that. sigh... I hate auctions, just tell me what you want for it dammit! :p
     
  14. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Na, they are different offset and you need the caliper & hub as well

    $400 for calipers only? New disks are ?? ouch - I'd rather waste more money and get Brembo, AP etc
     
  15. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    I dunno, less than 100 clams (hi Spidey :p) a caliper isn't too bad...
     
  16. Spiderman

    Spiderman Well-Known Member

    As Stig said, there's nothing wrong with standard 162 rotors for street use, especially when their new with new pads.


    FUCK YOU MATT :aargh ............ CLAMS huh !............ that's downright Plagiarism on a public forum and now my Barristers are on your way thru the Sydney smog with a GPS :lachtot


    Stop giving lip and update on the sleeka lip :hehe
     
  17. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    :lachtot

    Maybe this afternoon on the front lip
     
  18. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    I drive with ST185 brakes on the front with my st162 brakemaster cilinder and it brakes just fine :)
     
  19. kevind

    kevind Well-Known Member Donated!

    thanks guys does any body have a part number for the st165 rotors like in trw, dba, rda, ebc? because i work at repco and the st165 is not in any books.
     
  20. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

    I totally agree :)
     

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