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Square One LIVES !!!!! THANK GOODNESS !!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Diagnosis/Help' started by rickstar22, Apr 10, 2011.

  1. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

    OK, If you read in my thread, he went down with no warning. I stopped at the end of my driveway to get the mail, as soon as I walked around the back, he sputtered and died. Things I have done to this point are as follows...

    Replaced dizzy/distributor twice
    2 caps (noticed the rotor pin spring was bad in one)
    3 ignitors
    found bare wires to dizzy/distributor plug, repaired that.

    I sprayed ether into the intake to see it was a fuel delivery problem...not that

    Still have compression, so I didn't pop a timing belt...

    I get power from the coil to the dizzy/distributor, but no to the plugs...

    I don't have an extra coil to see if it is not shooting enough voltage, in the process of getting another one...

    I don't have another ECU to plug in to check if it popped it...

    I followed the harness around a little, and see no fusable links anywhere...
    I checked fuses and all look OK. Relays are impossible to tell, and I have no extras to change them out...

    I do have an extra engine harness, but would hate to cut it up, but if that has to be an option, I will....

    Did I miss anything??? I'm kinda bamboozled... Any other ideas???
     
  2. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Square One DOWN.... Square One DOWN !!!!!

    im sorting you out with a coil, shipping tomorrow,
     
  3. 89celicagt

    89celicagt Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

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    Is the AFM you're using good?
     
  4. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    :eek5 I've never had one go down, so I don't know the symptom of one doing so.... :banghead
     
  5. 89celicagt

    89celicagt Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

    Re: Square One DOWN.... Square One DOWN !!!!!

    struggles to idle, then dies :sad You can test yours with a multimeter to see if it's ok
    viewtopic.php?f=55&t=7217
     
  6. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    I wish it would struggle to idle :hehe . Just keeps turning over with no signs of wanting to start at all....
    I'm perplexed... :cuss .... Discombobulated even.... :eek5
    Still maintaining intestinal fortitude... :hsdance
     
  7. 89celicagt

    89celicagt Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

    Re: Square One DOWN.... Square One DOWN !!!!!

    Technically the air flow meter is a fuel pump switch also so if it was bad or wasn't plugged in just so the car won't start.
     
  8. 89celicagt

    89celicagt Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

    Re: Square One DOWN.... Square One DOWN !!!!!

    Not sure how cold it is out there, but I forgot to mention the CS injector time switch. I had a horrible time trying to get the GT-S started when mine went bad this winter.
     
  9. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    OK... I got out the digital multimeter, and did an ohms check on the AFM. Granted, I'm not an expert at electronics, but I tried every setting on the meter, and trip;e checked all the checks they say to do, and nothing came out to spec.... I've never had one go down while I was running. The Red Lady had a bad one from sitting forever before I replaced the engine, so it never started and threw a code instantly... I think ??? this may be it ???? :fingersx
     
  10. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    the AFM wouldn stop it throwing a spark
     
  11. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    I did run the alternate ground also.... No luck there.... :banghead :banghead
     
  12. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    Think it could be a coil so....
     
  13. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    GODDAMN IT.... Cross your fingers, MAN !!!!!!! :fingersx :lachtot
     
  14. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    Another distributor installed....NOTHIN.... :cuss :banghead :cuss

    OK, I'm now sure it's not that... :colbert

    Coil en route... :thumbsup:

    AFM and ECU located.... :eek:hnoes

    After that... I may end up with yard art...... :aargh
     
  15. 187flatliner

    187flatliner Seat Breaker Donated!

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    doubt it would end up as yard art.
     
  16. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    what's a yard art?
     
  17. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    Yard art defined.....
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    :toetap05 :hehe
     
  18. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    oh fuck. LOl. well if i dont get my ticking sound shit sorted out then we'll have two yard arts.
     
  19. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    yard art me hole!
     
  20. rickstar22

    rickstar22 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    Well....

    I chopped up my extra harness for a different distributor plug/lead, installed it, and still NOTHING :cuss :aargh

    Now, I'm getting a little sauced....

    Ignition starts power to the system, car turns over, CHECK...
    Keeps turning over until I smell raw gas...getting fuel....CHECK...
    I hear compression, and visual of timing belt in place....CHECK...
    Fire from all components to the distributor.....CHECK...
    NO fire from distributor to plugs.... :aargh :banghead :cuss :cuss :toetap05 :cuss :banghead ...FAIL !!!!!!

    Coil not enough fire ??? Maybe, have one in transit....
    Ignitor failure ??? 4 different with same result.... Doubtful
    Distributor ??? 4 different with same result.... Doubtful
    Cap-Rotor ??? 3 different with same result.... Doubtful
    Wires ??? 2 different with same result.... Doubtful
    Fuses??? All checked and operational.... Doubtful

    Relays ??? Can't check them (Is there a way?) ... Possible
    ECU ??? Don't have and extra, never heard of one failing... Tending to lead to this as the problem. Anyone....anyone ever had, or heard of this problem with a successful repair ????

    I'm at my wit's end with this one....
     

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