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so i broke my transmission

Discussion in 'Drivetrain' started by eNtraxGT88, Jun 14, 2012.

  1. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    in the most unlikely way. not by crash changing, not by changing gears with no clutch, not by doing burnouts, but by hitting this manhole

    it was raised instead of lowered and i was in a hurry and i guess i hit some part of it pretty hard.

    IMG-20120613-02661.jpg IMG-20120613-02662.jpg

    so i'm looking for some advice. basically i'm gonna be grabbing a s54 from a 94/95 celica. now i have the 3sge right now so i know that i'll need the bigger flywheel from the st202's 5s-fe, and i've already got the starter from my 1st celica's 3sfe. so i'm not worried about that part.

    so i'm just confused about cv axles, what are the terminologies behind them? i hear the words inner and outer and have no clue what they are. will my 3sge/s53 stock axles go into the s54?

    clutch? use my old 3s-ge clutch/pressure plate? or is it a different size as well?
  2. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    From memory the S53 axles will fit.
  3. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Last edited: Jun 14, 2012
  4. jwagner162

    jwagner162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    so a complete cv setup is the "drive axle". you have a cv joint on either end of it. the "inner" is the one that goes into the trans, or on the passenger side goes to the center support bearing. the "outer" goes into the hub. the inner and outer may/may not be the same style of cv joint, e.g. ball and cage or tulip. the style of cv makes no difference though there may be pros/cons to each. the splines of the inner joint need to match the trans, and the outer needs to match the hub all while having the correct length for whatever setup. so a "hybrid" axle would be to take say a 162 axle and put a 202 inner on it with the 162 outer. this way you would have an axle that would be correct hub slpine and length for a 162 that would fit into a 202 box.<---thats just some made up example.

    -that really sucks btw.
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2012
  5. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Maybe have that welded will save you from spending so much money and mods or just change the casing.
  6. jwagner162

    jwagner162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    JB weld...
  7. 4thgenceli

    4thgenceli Test Dummy

    Take pictures of the manhole and your car.

    Submit to city, get reimbursed for replacement transmission.
  8. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    facing forward:

    so that's the main crack:

    it goes around to the right side of where you see the crack in the above picture, up to the hole you sort of see

    Attached Files:

  9. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    That's serious, get a mech report/photos/witness statements and file a claim against the council
  10. Zaluss

    Zaluss Well-Known Member Donated!


    Stig is right, shouldn't be liable for that. Sounds like I'd take it up with the city. Of course getting reimbursed for that could be awhile.
  11. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    in that post stig, you said you need to use the GE clutch/release bearing, and an FE flywheel/pressure plate, so is it exclusive to be that way because i have an brand new FE clutch/release bearing/pressure plate and i was hoping to be able to have a new clutch in there, but if it has to be the GE, then i'll have to keep the old one (has about 40k km on it)
  12. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Your'e talking about the S54 box?
    Fot that you need a 5S/Rav4 flywheel to mate your crankshaft.
    The GE & FE clutch will fit the 5S flywheel
  13. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Well i got myself an 1997 s54 (electronic speedo), new 5s flywheel, new stock replacement 3sfe/3sge clutch/release bearing/pressure plate
    As stig said, my clutch will fit, however the release bearing does not (which was my actual question previous post). it fits the transmission but does not fit the fork, so i used the s53 fork+release bearing+s54 trans. hopefully it sit alright when i put in the slave cylinder tomorrow.

    600km's to gather all of that shit. to rickstar22: i picked up my trans from b&r at 200st/meridian east, that's like a few steps from you!
  14. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    The S54 fork on mine was the same so I'm not sure which one I used but I used the GE thrust bearing no problem.
    Your S53 fork should work no problem - got a pic of the other fork?
  15. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    i'll have one for ya tonight
  16. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    1987 S53 3S-GE left, 1997 S54 5S-FE right

    also...what does this mean?
  17. just_ace

    just_ace Well-Known Member

    all s54 have that pins in the middle of the diff. it's open, not LSD.

    if it was an E153 from a turbo mr2 then it'd be a viscous lsd.

    the S54 LSD pin is pretty much square edged and you can barely see past it, chamfered edges like that are norm open diff unfortunately.

    there's a pic on the beams forum of the s54 lsd centre, i'll hunt it down for you.
  18. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    darn. oh well i was just hoping haha
  19. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Looks like they widened the fork/bearing later on, interesting
    No lsd as Ace sez, my MR2 lsd looks like this:

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