Bula Everyone, For those of you don't know, Bula is heard everywhere in Fiji! It is universally used to say hello, or welcome, and is even exclaimed if you sneeze! It means 'life' and is a way of wishing good health and fortune to the recipient. Formally heard as 'ni sa bula vinaka' (nee-sahm-boola-vee-nahka). I will be using that all the time, so get used to it, my marketing of Fiji I guess! I have this "very rare" (So I've been told) AT160 Celica running a 4A-GE engine under Normal Aspiration. Take a look at a couple of pics below, still have the paint job to get done and a couple of minor exterior fixing to do but am looking for a body kit which I can't find anywhere second hand as custom is ridiculously expensive - Know someone, message me... FYI - This is what it looked like when the accident happened, I was so upset!! (not during my driving though!) Fortunately, got heaps of parts arranged from NZ and probably will get more done, wonderful guy to work with!! Thanks Stig! Had to replace whole CV (also got the oil sump repaired as CV struck into it), Suspension Plate, Links, Rod Ends, Tire of course, Fender, Headlight, Side Mirror and a couple of other parts. Really don't know why I am of the very few that has four stud wheel hubs! So hard to find mods for these!! Have in mind to make a couple of mods and will probably need some advise from a few of you folks on here, will give you hints once I get some $$$ collected as most of them need to be airfreighted! :? Cheers guys - looking forward to getting far more posts done up here! Will advertise this site with decals once my car is all shiny again! Over and out!
Bula dude Yeah it's the only AT I've seen with electric everything and 89 grille, wipers etc Any idea where it was supplied from? Actually I think you are lucky - those rims are the same as MR2, Corolla, Cressida, Corona, Supra etc Bodykits are extinct here, watch ebay in OZ and there is a place that sells new in Sydney Let me know if you need any stickers? I didn't realize those fenders were the same colour, It's good to see those parts come alive again
G'day mate, Nice at160. The 4age looks like the smallport one. But im not 100%sure. do you know if it's bigport or smallport? And what brand are the extractors?
im confused. why is there 4A-GE in his celica? I thought toyota supplied them to smaller cars like the AE86. someone wanna help me out ? lol <~~~ question of a true novice.
It's a bluetop 4A-GE (small port I think?) Early 4th Gens (1985-6) came with the Corolla motor and box as well as 2S (1800cc) motors Check the motor page under Members Celi's for pics of all the motors Why this 89 has the 4A-GE is a mystery but it also has the Euro number plate lights and speedo, so I suspect it may be ex Europe or built for UK market
Bula Everyone, Wow! Great to get so much feedback, I like this site already! One more reason to sit in front of the PC then... As to the questions, I am pretty sure it is a big port 4A-GE as the TVIS inlet manifold is quite broad as explained in Bill Sherwood's site (http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock.htm). I have been studying this car for a few months now and have also found the Original 4A-GE Engine Repair Manual which has been a great help in reconnecting sensors (PS: This engine that I have fitted now has also been purchased from NZ about a year back, the Original was a Red Top, which I later found to be less powerful!) Hooray!! I agree with Stig that this car was meant to go to Europe, how it ended up in Fiji is just beyond me! However, if anybody can decrypt this Identification Plate from Toyota, please share: Fiynix87, the extractors came with the car when I bought it. I reckon that they are just stock, but I cannot say for sure. I am actually looking at purchasing a whole new exhaust system from the US, but will post this later on as $$$ are an issue at the moment and don't want guys to wait for too long once the topic begins... Stig, you say I am lucky with those wheel hubs being 4 stud instead of 5 stud. Okay, but how come I can't find any mods online. I have been looking at Brembo Brake Rotors and Big Brake Kits, but none of them would fit 4 Stud. I have been thinking about getting them all changed to 5 Stud from an St165 so that all brakes are Calipers and not Drum for the Rear Brakes. - Let me know what you think?! Thanks once again for the awesome feedback... Over and out...
In Japan they had to options for the cars either 4age for st model or 3sge for sx They had the same option for the 3rd gens also. AA60 st model came with 4age and the sx model aa60 came with a very very early 3sge. But it is a rare model to find. Let alone own. As for the brakes the stud pattern is 4x100 the same as the ae82 twincam corolla and im pretty sure the brakes you can buy for the ae82 corolla would work on them (unless you have drums on the rear) then the front's only. Also if you have trouble finding 4age's for your car the ae82 twincame corolla came with a 4age as well as some ae86 sprinters(rwd engines tough)
I'm sure you can use Corolla, Tercel, Cynos, Exiv, Curren etc brakes with minor mods. The rim options are endless for those cars The reason Celica is not listed is because nobody realises it exists. I checked my photos and the headers are not stock, stock was cast iron. JDM does not have ST, SX etc only GT and GT-R JDM AT160 series is all 4A-GE, ST161 was 2S, 3S carbed motors, ST162 was 3S injected motors There are similar cars in Holland, Germany etc but they are all LHD which makes me think it may have been intended for UK or maybe even Singapore, Malasia etc which is RHD
Sorry Stig after i posted it i realised i meant gt not st and gt-s not st. As that's what models came with the 4age (gt) and 3sge(gt-s) in Japan Here's a link to the site i found out the 3sge came as an option for 3rd gen celica's and also tells you what other engines where used in the cars. http://www.toyoland.com/cars/celica.html But yer the extractors/headers are deff aftermarket. They look a bit like genie's to me?
Bula once again, Thanks for the input all... Yeah, I am not sure what I will be doing with the brakes as yet but will probably look for new rotors and calipers for front and drum shoes and drum rotor for the rear. Have looked at a couple of high end brake systems and wow, they don't come cheap at all!! Will begin working on the body kit first and painting it and then the exhaust and then will get after market cold air intake system sorted and most probably more smaller parts from NZ... Take care all... Over and out!
damn stupid rare car. i wonder if that was ordered and not production. that thing is screaming for a black top.
Bula Mafix, Actually I heard of a couple of AT160 with 4A-GE 16 Valve engines, but they are not many and most of them were also with a 250 km/h gauge cluster. You mean the 4A-GE blacktop with 20 Valve? I know they have ITB's and power is around the 160HP/w with that thing, but I recon that will cost an enormous amount, since the gearbox and mountings will need to be changed as well. Don't get me started on the wiring loom, it was a hell of a job to get that wiring loom connected from the second engine I put in as I didn't trust the mechanics to do it and did it myself. Guess when you deal with electronics and repair stuff, you are sure you do a good job with these things and I did! Cheers... Over and out!
Actually I'm jealous, less fuel, lighter, engines and gearboxes are easy to find, engine access. The gearboxes seem to be a lot more reliable with less power even though the syncro's are smaller as well Those ST fenders look fine to me in the pics, how do they look in real life because there is an argument going that you can't put ST fenders on an AT without it looking "strange" That is an interesting article, however it doesn't state 2S, 3S, 4S, 4A etc. I'm basing my comments on what I've come across in the scrapyards and the various JDM combinations I've documented on the "engine" page
Bula Again, Lol! Well, less fuel is up to how it is driven I guess as I like to get the engine between 4,000 - 5,000rpm in overtake situations. The C52 gearbox runs fine, but I would prefer a RWD or 4WD as in the All-trac, recently my CV joint broke (and the wheel was just being held by the break calipers) when I switched into 3rd gear from 4th, I recon that the stock parts cannot hold onto this Torque, but I cannot say for sure. As to that myth that ST fenders cannot be put onto AT without strange look, that is just bullshit! On the photos it looks fine and so it does in real life, that fitted almost perfectly and flushed with the AT exterior parts without problem. What I found problems with is the ST headlights as they are a little different than the AT units and minor mods were required. By the way Stig, the entire car has been put together again by myself and not by a panel beater! As to the Article on Bill Sherwood's page, it is specially dedicated to 4A engines as it has been brought up by the World Famous TRD Atlantic Engine, which is just ridiculously expensive. You are looking at around US$10k or maybe more for that engine. Cheers all... Over and Out!
Bula Stig, The plugs, yes they were different, also the plate that holds the front grille was different so had to pack it with hard plastic so that it would hold it onto the right position. The top pin that sits into o whole on the chassis had to be bent a little and the screw holds filed so that it can fit into the exact position. Like I said, minor mods but everything's ok now. Over and out!
I think on mine I just drilled new holes for the grille and used screws as the plastic clips were breaking up, I think I swapped the bonnet catch support as well but that was years ago Those damm clips are going to be major problem in the future
