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new to 4th gens, just bought 88 gts . i have some questions....

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by branman79, Mar 10, 2017.

  1. branman79

    branman79 Member

    first off, what is this facelift I keep hearing about? any info and pics of that would be great.
    also, its an auto, but has an eco and power switch that lights up on the dash cluster. what is that? anyway, it has 113 thousand miles on it, hope it lasts me a long time. Noticed the dash was faded all to crap tho, anything I can do with that?
     
  2. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    Hi branman, welcome to the forum! You'll find answers here to pretty much any question you have about your car. If you want to know everything about the ST162 in one thread, read Stigs labour of love - JDM TEMS, Corona 162 - 2 & 4 door and many more jdm oddities

    To summarise your questions though;

    Pressing the power switch on the gear lever just tells the tranny to hold onto gears for longer before changing up, it won't magically make engine more powerful (haha we wish)

    Swapping the dash out isn't too difficult, there are just a million clips and harnesses to undo. Some pics of removal here. Or cover it with a dash mat and forget about it :)

    Facelift - If your car is an '88, it's a facelift model. Some people call them the Series 2 or Mark 2, but Toyota never differentiated. Anyway, so in mid 1987 the Celica received a mild cosmetic makeover. The front corner light/indicator assemblies and grill are slightly different, and in the back the taillights are slightly different. The GTS models got new wheels. There were also some minor interior colour changes. That's really about it, mechanically the cars were identical. If you're thinking of doing a conversion, note that the taillights are a straight swap, but the grill and corner lights are not. Some pics of our members cars to illustrate:

    LionTR's series 1 grill and corners:
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    Stig's series 2 front end:
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    Seank90's series 1 taillights:
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    rickstar22's series 2 taillights:
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    Series 1 GTS wheels (couldn't find a decent members photo, this is from wikipedia):
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    Celicasteve's series 2 wheels:
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    Cheers

    Matt
     
  3. branman79

    branman79 Member

    wow... thanks man, what a helpful reply!!!
     
  4. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    No problem
     
  5. vic dat

    vic dat Well-Known Member

    image.jpg Welcome B,

    We like pix
    Where do you hail from?

    Mines an ' 87 GTS prefacelift with a post facelift lights grille and corners (almost pnp haha)

    Vic
     
  6. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    I like the more prominent CELICA script on the series one front end, so I frankensteined the top half of a series one grill onto the bottom half of my series 2. Only had to shave one plastic tab slightly to make it fit :)

    Before:
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    After:
    [​IMG]
     
  7. vic dat

    vic dat Well-Known Member

    I was gonna do that too but I wanted to get away from the black eyebrows... So it was just easier to go complete. At that point I discoverers that they don't match exactly but I'm leaving it since it works good
     
  8. MattC

    MattC Well-Known Member Donated!

    Yeah the white-out look is nice, and no-one else would notice they're not perfectly straight. We'll just call it "character" eh? :p

    Something else I discovered by mixing & matching parts from different cars is that the colour of the clear plastic part of the upper grill and the headlight eyebrows differs slightly (could be different amount of tint in different batches, could just be different amounts of UV exposure?), and also the grey cards behind the plastic differ slightly as well (in both the colour and the line pattern). Again, not something that 99.9% of the population would ever spot, but once you've noticed it you can't un-see it :(
     
  9. vic dat

    vic dat Well-Known Member

    We are an anal bunch haha
     
  10. Rick89GTS

    Rick89GTS Well-Known Member Moderator Donated!

    Also note that the HVAC control panel on the 86-87 Pre-facelift was redesigned for the 88-89 Facelift and do NOT interchange.
    ST162 HVAC Panels.jpg
     
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  11. branman79

    branman79 Member

    awesome. thanks rick, Im missing the a/c button on mine, so that will def come in handy. I live in south Carolina, have 2 6 gens and a 7th gen, had a 5th gen but it caught fire, now a guy at work has a 88 gts that im buying from him for 700 bucks. Its def rough around the edges, but has 113 thousand miles so I want to fix it up as nice as possible. Nothing ricey or anything, just back original as much as possible. im def glad that I found this site, you guys have helped a ton already.
     
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  12. CelicaSteve

    CelicaSteve Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

    Welcome from the UK Branman, don't thinbk I need to add anymore regards "facelift" topic, Matt has done a brilliant job giving you the answers. Any photos of yours yet ?
     

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