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3sge gen 2 Specs anyone??

Discussion in 'Aftermarket Modifications' started by Coupes only, Jul 23, 2011.

  1. Coupes only

    Coupes only Well-Known Member

    Well I have some questions about a 2nd gen 3sge
    I look everywhere for accurate specs but it's
    Allways different .

    I got 156hp at 6600 Rpms
    138tq at 4800 with a 7200 rev limit

    Now the jdm 1st gen has 150 -160 hp
    And little torque and it just doesn't make sence ..

    Did they just redesign the 3sge for the lack of torque??
    Or is there more power to I've seen some sites saying
    170 hp for the 2nd gen but that's what I thought the 3rd gen
    Has . I usually take wikipedias word for it but I still
    Want accurate specs


    Thnx
     
  2. celicaman

    celicaman Well-Known Member Donated!

    i believe that jdm 2nd gens are at 164-170hp, jdm 3rd gen make 180hp everywhere else it makes 170hp due to egr.
     
  3. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    check this site out all the spec's for all gen's are there hope that this answer's your question
    Toyota Celica - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  4. Coupes only

    Coupes only Well-Known Member

    Duhh Obviously I've been there .. Read thread
     
  5. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    then keep on looking
     
  6. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Looks like the spec sheet I posted has gone, GE approx figures -

    Gen1 JDM - 160HP
    Gen2 JDM - 180HP
    Gen3 JDM - 200HP

    For EGR version subtract 20HP
     
  7. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    gen 3 doesnt have 200.... it has 172 or something... the beams has 200
     
  8. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Yes, you're right. Gen3 is slightly lower
     
  9. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    be aware the USDM, JDM, EUDM all have different specs due to government regulations on environmental issues.

    In Europe it is :

    Gen 1 without Cat 156 (only late 1985 + 1986 models)
    Gen 1 with Cat 146
    Gen 2 156
    Gen 3 175
     
  10. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    no cat on 88-89 here either... or 02 sensor.
    gen 1 is 148..
    gen 2 is 158..
    gen 3 is 173..
     
  11. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    it's quite disturbing how many differences there are, but I think the USDM are the ones with least HP as not only emission things should be on and USA drives with the worst quality of petrol....

    Here the worst (standard) Octane is 95 .... I always use 98 or 100 .
    What's the octane nr in USA, somewhere in the 80's ??
     
  12. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    89 octane is the cheap stuff i think?
     
  13. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    wow...89 octane is illegal here :) lol hahaha
     
  14. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    we in south africa use 93/95 inland and the highest I have ever seen was 98 by the coast 100 octane thats strong fuel
    we used that type of fuel for racing but can't find that on our petrol pump's I wished we that around here.
     
  15. Thaifighter

    Thaifighter Well-Known Member

    octane 87, but I think we use a different system.
    I think it's like you guys use RON or something like that. I think our octane 87 is equivalent to your 91 or something.
     
  16. jwagner162

    jwagner162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    yes, we use a different measuring system. ron+mon/2 (iirc), everywhere else just uses the ron #. however iirc our midgrade is equivalant to everyone else's regular, so in escence they have one grade higher available.

    -my guess is that since its MUCH more expensive to get liscensed and maintain a vehicle overseas thats why they get the higher output cars and hence a higher grade fuel.
     
  17. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    In aus we have 91, 95 and 98 octane, i usually go 98 as 91 makes me ping up hills.

    UK 3sge specs
    This is from an Australian MR2 forum

    http://www.mr2forum.org/forum/index.php?/topic/590-sw20-generations/
    Post #7

     
  18. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Those look like OZ specs Andrew, all the injector sizes are wrong too

    Go to the depot in Alrode, you can buy anything including methanol.
    There was a garage on Jules str that sold 100 octane from the coast for many years
    but it closed down when the ANC turned JHB into a taxi rank.
     
  19. Coupes only

    Coupes only Well-Known Member

    313s on gen 2 3sge 3rd gen has 303s or something
     
  20. Coupes only

    Coupes only Well-Known Member

    Yep injectors are pink and does auto make a difference?? In hp because I noticed 3rd gen auto has 177 my 2nd gen is from Jdm st182 gtr with tems and 4ws
    Automatic so did Toyota also make gen 2 auto a better motor??
     

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