So, why is it, that flat black paint would cost $225, when gloss black paint costs around $25-50 less? I can see that the flattener is going to take a little to get it to change, but that seems ridiculous! Is there anywhere that sells flat black paint, in a rattle can form? I looked over at BASF, as they supposedly sell flat paints, but I couldn't find anything, aside from their candy colors, which aren't my favorite, unless on a hot rod. I cannot see paying $225 bucks for a gallon of paint, when it would only cost me 600 to have my car done by a professional friend of mine... WTF? If anything at all, it sounds like the guy wanted to screw me on paint... I used to paint cars, and other things, on a semi-professional level. I don't remember paying anything near that, for any color! lol Then again, back then, I had some connections... I really wish there was some other way of getting this car all painted up... If I had the materials needed, (paint) then this car would be dent free, and looking like a serious tuner... lol So to speak. If a car looks intimidating, people won't mess with you! lol I can't wait to get this car flat black...
I think im going to get some of this premixed paint they sell at canadian tire. I wanna respray the red parts of my car red again. Its 25 dollars for about 1 Leter of paint. A couple cans should do that car. I also like silver but Im pretty sure i wouldnt turn out as well.
Just do a bit of prep work and it'll look great....and the more prep you do the better it will turn out....
You mean in a spray can Mephtar? I have a few panels on my car I need to get up to scratch. Some are the right colour and are smooth, just need more clear and cuttinf i think. But my bonnet, roof and rear right quarter panel have to get redone, as the bonnet and roof are a bit rough from bog i think, and the quarter has file mars from bogging still. If im careful, should I be able to get a decent finish that will shine up ok with clear on it, out of spray cans?be quick, cheap and simple, once i straighten the quarter haha........ sorry for OT....
Well up here in Canada you could get Tremclad Flat Black Rust Paint so I'm sure that any big hardware store in the States must sell flat black paint. I would have to guess that they would even have special automotive flat black paint for things like bumpers and trim pieces. I used the above paint on my driving light brackets. Flat Black rocks!!! I'm pretty sure you can also get flat black paint to refinish your BBQ so if all else fails check that out.
That's about the finish I'm looking for that same flat, but with a little shine... Just like your lights... It really looks sick, and brings out the lines on a car! lol I'm really afraid to waste any money, if it turns out like crap, you know? Trem clad, here in the states, is like 8 bucks a can! lol I was thinking, as rye suggested, just priming the car with black, and put a matte finish clear over it... Someone said that it would probably chip if it was just the primer, but they couldn't tell me, if it would be ok with a clear over it... Something else about doing it this way, is that you pretty much have to wear gloves when primer applying, as any little oil spot, will show, forever! lol I painted my rabbit gti in tangello, and she looks like crap because someone came into my booth, and touched it, and I thought nothing about it... I painted right over it, after cleaning it with alcohol... Really irritating, no one else notices it though... Just me! Beings that I am a perfectionist, I want everything perfect... lol So this is going to have to come out top notch! lol What do you guys think it would look like? I'm really interested in doing it, whether or not anyone thinks it's going to be ugly... lol It just seems pretty cool, but it seems like everyone else is jumping on that band wagon. What are you're thoughts?
I've used flat black primer in rattle-can before; it's readily available here in Canada, should be where you are too. The satin finish may be what you're looking for, it's like a flat black with a slight sheen to it but not glossy. You see it on the black-out hoods of older Mustangs and Camaros or sometimes on the front of a yellow school bus.
If you rattle can your car, do it in light stages and sand between each coat (or every other) that way you are sure to have a good smooth surface that covers the whole car, just google for flat black civic and you shall see what it looks like without doing it in stages but I recommend you barrow/rent an air compressor (biggun, small ones are about useless when you paint cars) go buy a gravity feed sprayer (if you don't plan on keeping it buy it at walmart and just return it saying it didn't work) Your coverage will be so much better
I know how to do all the painting prep, and such. lol I also do computer case painting for a part time job... I have painted a number of cars, including a couple older mustangs. Also another car with great lines! lol I have seen some pretty terrible prep jobs, where there was over spray, and no sanding in between layers... You have to sand, in order to find high and low spots, and imperfections. What my question is, if I went with a straight primer, should I also apply a clear? I might just buy a primer, and add the matte clear into the mix... It's basically going to be cleaner... I usually do like 2-3 layers of primer, then 2-3 paint... I like it to be nice and thick...
the flat you are looking at may be CERT paint(radar resistant) and that skyrockets the price. also for car painting and using paint guns the paint is actually harder to make than you would think. your best bet is to check eastwood.com or see if you can get the premix duoupont stuff but in flat i doubt it.
radar resistant? radar doesn't "reflect" really....it's more of a microwave that goes through the air so how the hell can they call it radar resistant? I guess laser radar, but that's about it...
Stealth planes have paint with iron balls in it to scatter and dissipate radar energy. But I am pretty sure they don't sell that to the public. Mind givng us a little more info Mafix? Like what company makes it? $250 a gallon doesn't sound too far out of line, maybe for flat paint it is though. I know that dupont chromabase is about $400 a gallon in Canada. Maybe not anymore due to the high dollar.
Also, they are changing all automotive paints to water based apparently, if they haven't done so already.... Yeah, I don't know if that will affect anything here though....
Hmmm. Seems like there is a lot of good information in here. I am just going to hit it with black primer, but I am afraid of the primer fading, later on... I remember painting a car in primer, several years ago, and the paint ended up fading to a darker grey... Might have just been the paint... But who really knows? lol I might just buy a bucket of black primer, and hit the car with it, but maybe also buy some black dye, to maybe make an everlasting color... I'm just worried about fading, and the eventual rubbing off, or washing off... What are the thoughts on that? I remember seeing several beautiful cars, that were done up in flat black, including a rolls royce golden wing, or whatever they are... I highly doubt they primer painted that? I could be wrong, I have seen some seriously deranged crap in my lifetime! lol I will try out the straight primer, and go from there... We'll see how it turns out!
Yes. Most. lol There is a paint, with a clear coat already built in, that when the additives are added, turn flat, or matte black. But if you guys think that a primer will work, it should.
